Joe Hirsch hosts I Wish They Knew, a podcast where business and educational leaders share a big idea they wish others knew more about.
These short-form conversations cover everything from building trust and inclusion in the workplace to managing adversity and new technologies. Joe interviews some of the biggest names across a wide range of industries, starting with a simple question:
“What do you wish others knew?”
New episodes air each Wednesday wherever you get your podcasts.
BIG IDEAS. SMALL CONVERSATIONS.


Joe Hirsch hosts small conversations about big ideas that deserve more attention — in about the time to takes to enjoy a cup of coffee.
IN EPISODE 134:
Inclusion isn't a belief – it's a behavior. To create a truly inclusive workplace, we need to act our way into new thinking. In Episode 134, Sally Helgesen shows us how our actions shape our attitudes and why trainings alone rarely bring desired results. Sally explores two triggers that get in the way of meaningful relationships, provides tactics that help us overcome divisiveness, and shares ways that well-placed questions can drive career development and growth. After listening to Sally, you'll walk away with specific ways to foster inclusion at work so that teams can rise together.
ABOUT SALLY HELGESEN:
Sally Helgesen is an internationally best-selling author, speaker and leadership coach. She's been cited by Forbes as the world’s premier expert on women’s
leadership, has been inducted into the Thinkers50 Hall of Fame, and has worked with companies in 37 countries around the world. Sally's latest book is Rising
Together: How We Can Bridge Divides and Create a More Inclusive Workplace.
